C quartz eh?

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well i recently purchased cquartz got paint nearly 100% swirl free

i followed the directions. at around 9pm i finished. Woke up at 6:30 am to leave for work and it is pouring rain outside and the results are ok. My question is am i in trouble now protection wise because it has received rain and has not allowed 48 hours for it to cure? or will this coat be just as durable even though i drove it to work for an hour in the rain.

it says to wipe off if any water is received within 24 hours.. but i am at work and i don't have time to do that. did i just waste 50 dollars!?! if so i would like a refund that is an unrealistic position to put someone in!

this smells alot like zaino clear seal? is it the thing?
 
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Well, let me reassure you that it is definitely not Zaino clear seal, and you definitely did not waste $50 on the product. Your scenario is definitely one that raises an eyebrow for me. First because you clearly were aware of the constraints and recommendations associated with the product, so to jump the gun and want a refund is a little weird to me. You were aware of the "unrealistic" position and still chose to use the product and chose to use the car without allowing proper cure time. Would you ask for a refund if you just got your floor varnished and the installer told you not to walk on them for X hours and you chose to walk on them because you needed to go to the bathroom? You (the same as anyone else) should plan for contingencies, yours being that you knew you needed to use the car to go to work and the rain forecast were elevated. I've had several friends who chose to coat one panel at a time BECAUSE of the life constraints they were under. It does take a little longer but....

So what is the problem with exposing your vehicle to rain/water within the alloted time. The coating cures and hardens over time. It is water resistant in 48 hrs, light chemical resistant (soaps) in 1 week, and fully cure at around 30 days (where you see maximum benefits). If you do expose the coating to water you may be left with "imprints" or even water spots. You should have let the coating cure and called a buddy/co-worker for a ride OR you should have planned a vacation day last week to make sure you coated on Saturday (early in the day) leaving Saturday afternoon, evening, night, all day Sunday to cure properly away from exposure.

I am sorry you feel this way but you were well informed of the requirements of the coating. Hope your environment and technique did help speed cure the coating and that this water exposure did not mess up your hard work. Personally I always speed cure my coatings using IR lamps but still keep customer cars for at least 24hrs beyond that.
 
so what are my options? to buy another bottle and re apply it?

what is the proper process then at this point if i go another week with this DD bug spots etc. do i have to restart over completely again?
 
Is it going to rain all day? or did you just have a quick sprinkle? Personally I would not allow water to dry on the coating. It is going to be a pain but you need to keep it dry. Having said that (and what I mentioned before) it is possible that NOTHING will happen to the coating. If that is the case then you dodged the bullet. If you are left with imprints then a light polish and recoat is recommended. You may be able to remove the imprints easily (since the coating is fresh) but the polishing does disrupt the outer matrix and definitely benefits from a recoat. (the light polish won't take you all day, not like when you remove swirls and scratches)
 
After you redo it you could opt for a quick coat of reload if you know you can't keep it dry for the required time. It will help in the case of a sprinkle.
 
so at this point my car is nearly dry but it is very dirty and I don't want to wipe it down without some type of lubricant
 
I was driving in a heavy downpour most of the way and then it stopped
 
Do not use ANY chemicals on it for at least 1 week, which includes soaps, IronX etc.... I understand you wanting to put some lubricant in the wash, but at this point you won't negate the ill effects. As it was mentioned above, a quick Reload may have helped. At this point the harm is done.
 
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Is it going to rain all day? or did you just have a quick sprinkle? Personally I would not allow water to dry on the coating. It is going to be a pain but you need to keep it dry. Having said that (and what I mentioned before) it is possible that NOTHING will happen to the coating. If that is the case then you dodged the bullet. If you are left with imprints then a light polish and recoat is recommended. You may be able to remove the imprints easily (since the coating is fresh) but the polishing does disrupt the outer matrix and definitely benefits from a recoat. (the light polish won't take you all day, not like when you remove swirls and scratches)
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ok, so if i dodged the bullet.. i will wash it in one weeks time with megs gold class. i will inspect the paint for water etching... if there is no etching i will assume we are good. However i wanted to know does this affect the life of the coating? also what are the steps with product specifics on re applying a second coat with and without water etching assuming this is my daily driver

thanks for your help.


the reason i ask for a refund is because i bought this from amazon and no where does it say on the webpage on amazon or with the instructions about the cure time. i don't expect amazon to give me direction but i do expect some type of better instructions then what was included with a 50$ purchase it just tells you how to apply it that is it.
 
It won't affect the life of the coating. The reason to avoid exposure is because the coating is "soft". Personally I would wash it with Reset and put some Reload on it. There is a long list of reasons (other than being great products) but this would take too long for me to enumerate. The skinny of it is Reset was designed for coatings and leaves no residue on the paint (which would prevent proper bonding of Reload). Megs is a great product but does contain lasting surfactants which residue may interfere with the bonding.

I completely understand your point about Amazon but I believe the instructions are on the box/bottle (maybe not in the full glory detail you will have on CarPro-US.... but that is why you only have one Corey). You can always try your luck with Amazon for failure to have a fully laid out application tech sheet and all the Dos and Don'ts.

In any case welcome to the forum, and looking forward to see where your experience will stand in a week from now. Hopefully you dodged the bullet!
 
alright i just ordered some reset and reload.. hopefully that will do the trick. I looked at the car so far no etching found. it is just super disappointing cause i paid alot of money to have the paint near 100% swirl free which it is. then i was going to do LSP .. but it turned out this way. dirt on the car :( and a rain storm :(
 
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I have about 30 ml left of Cquartz UK from an application about a month ago. Send me a PM with your info and I will send it to you. Corey and CarPro are top notch. They don't sell "cheap" products, but you get what you pay for. And his service is second to none. The ONLY company in the car detailing business for me that can even be compared to his customer service is The Rag Co.

Let me know if you need more CQUK.
 
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I have about 30 ml left of Cquartz UK from an application about a month ago. Send me a PM with your info and I will send it to you. Corey and CarPro are top notch. They don't sell "cheap" products, but you get what you pay for. And his service is second to none. The ONLY company in the car detailing business for me that can even be compared to his customer service is The Rag Co.

Let me know if you need more CQUK.
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hey thanks for the offer! but i think you should keep it you are a member :)


of course it is going to be sunny/party cloudy for the next 5 days.. and it had to rain on my commute to work only!!! argh!!!

could i do another cquartz? if i reset and reload? maybe it is not worth it if there is no etching?

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updated with pictures :/ swirls how did they get there! bits of etching when open up pictures in a new tab for full resolution
 
What kind of lighting did you use for the correction and inspection? Did you have to rub hard to remove the product when flashed? Those are the two obvious questions that come to mind as to why you would have micromarring and scratches. If you used a polish with filler and poor lighting you may have been fooled that you had completely corrected it when in fact the swirl were just masked. The solvents in CQ would dislodge some of the filler and you are left with a car that is swirled (when you thought it was 100% defect free). Lighting is critcal.... and nothing hides from the sun!!

Another possibility is you had a suede applicator which started to crystalize and you kept using it in the application, but the circular swirls don't seem to back up that theory
 
Dr_Pain said:
What kind of lighting did you use for the correction and inspection? Did you have to rub hard to remove the product when flashed? Those are the two obvious questions that come to mind as to why you would have micromarring and scratches. If you used a polish with filler and poor lighting you may have been fooled that you had completely corrected it when in fact the swirl were just masked. The solvents in CQ would dislodge some of the filler and you are left with a car that is swirled (when you thought it was 100% defect free). Lighting is critcal.... and nothing hides from the sun!!

Another possibility is you had a suede applicator which started to crystalize and you kept using it in the application, but the circular swirls don't seem to back up that theory
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yeah he used some AIO when i did 11% isp wipe down i could tell some of the filler was coming out of some places. i might of made some of those when wiping it off.. i find that hard to believe though i had brand new microfibers. it was the brightest sun minnesota will ever see :)
 
Fobia - if I understand you had someone else do the polishing (unknown AIO) and then you did the final wipe & coating?

I am hoping for your sake the coating is good and maybe just dirty. But if those are swirls are real, you are going want to start over. You might need to correct it using something without fillers. Then wipe with Eraser then reCoat.
 
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Fobia - if I understand you had someone else do the polishing (unknown AIO) and then you did the final wipe & coating?

I am hoping for your sake the coating is good and maybe just dirty. But if those are swirls are real, you are going want to start over. You might need to correct it using something without fillers. Then wipe with Eraser then reCoat.
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i don't have a rotary or random orbital. is there something by hand that would fix that?
 
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