Reflect: what am I doing wrong?

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I tried reflect on a panel on my wife's van tonight, cool to touch, in shade and again it was like cement trying to buff off the remains. I tried it with a hybrid pad, a ccs pad and a hydrotech. Still the same results.
 
Flex 3401, speed 5, 6 passes. I did not prime the pads, used 3 pea sized drops. I'm at a loss
 
I tried it on a 14 grand cherokee and a 13 grand caravan. I didn't prime the pad with product, I used a spritz of Wolfgang pad conditioner as my priming agent
 
This is very strange! I can hardly imagine what you are describing. One of the things I really like about Reflect is how easy it wipes off. That being said, I always lightly prime the pad by working a bit of polish into it. Also, if you are working outside, be SURE it's not to hot out and you are working in a well shaded area. Try doing a few less passes, Reflect works very quickly. Maybe you are over working an under primed pad???
 
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Docpeanut said:
I tried it on a 14 grand cherokee and a 13 grand caravan. I didn't prime the pad with product, I used a spritz of Wolfgang pad conditioner as my priming agent
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Try priming the pad as I described above, don't use the WGPC. Work some polish into the pad, then add a few more drops of polish, and do a few less passes, then wipe it off. It should wipe off like air.
 
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I'll give it a go, James also suggested I try it on my griots 6, I'll do that as well. I'm not giving up on reflect yet
 
I may have to order another bottle from Corey(got this one on Amazon). I'm thinking I may have a bum bottle, maybe the person I got it from mixed something in with it
 
Ya, that's scary using something from someone you don't know. You never know for sure what you may be getting.
 
I can assure you I won't make that mistake again, direct from the source from here on out
 
DARK HORSE said:
No reason not to use your 3401, I use it all the time with Reflect.
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What speed setting for 3401 and what pad? I was in the same boat as Brian - challenges with Reflect on my mustang. I had my speed at 4 1/2 to 5, 1st two passes pressure and 3 /4 just weight of the 3401. I tried a LC hybrid white pad, hybrid black pad then finally crimson pad. I was getting little tick marks on my paint - crimson pad was better but not that wow factor I got when I used Reflect on a Benz. I thought maybe it has something do with the Flex, but after your post, I doubt it now.

It may be my technique and pad selection - asked Corey and he suggested Buff n Shine Blue pad. I do know I made the mistake of priming pad like I normally do with Menzerna.

Hopefully you can share your experiences with us!
 
With Reflect using either Flex 3401 or Rupes bigfoot I have a similar method.

Fresh pad to start of course:
One thin line down it
Touch it to the paint repeatedly across the area I am about to polish
Turn on low and spread once with fast arm movement
Turn it up to speed 5 or 6 with some pressure (a little more with Flex) (slightly faster arm movement than typical with my finishing polish
2 passes in that manner
Then turn down to 4 or 4.5 and use VERY slow arm movement / eased up pressure for a pass until I am just keeping the pad perfectly flat and no longer any extra pressure
Continue in that manner until the polish is almost completely invisible. (Usually 2 of these very slow arm movement passes)

Wipe off section with YF

Next section-
Important - Brush pad out very well
Apply 2-3 very small dots to pad
touch to paint a bunch of times where Im about to polish
repeat rest of procedure
 
Corey said:
With Reflect using either Flex 3401 or Rupes bigfoot I have a similar method.

Fresh pad to start of course:
One thin line down it
Touch it to the paint repeatedly across the area I am about to polish
Turn on low and spread once with fast arm movement
Turn it up to speed 5 or 6 with some pressure (a little more with Flex) (slightly faster arm movement than typical with my finishing polish
2 passes in that manner
Then turn down to 4 or 4.5 and use VERY slow arm movement / eased up pressure for a pass until I am just keeping the pad perfectly flat and no longer any extra pressure
Continue in that manner until the polish is almost completely invisible. (Usually 2 of these very slow arm movement passes)

Wipe off section with YF

Next section-
Important - Brush pad out very well
Apply 2-3 very small dots to pad
touch to paint a bunch of times where Im about to polish
repeat rest of procedure
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Blue Buff & Shine Pad?

Thank you Corey!
 
James said:
Blue Buff & Shine Pad?

Thank you Corey!
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Depends for sure on the paint but its either the Blue, the Super soft (white or red) depending on size.. OR the Hydrotech Crimson which I LOVE for reflect on harder paints. The best I have used and my new favorite for finishing is the Scholl Concepts Neo Honey Gold but I know not many of you have that in your toolbox yet as an option. You should be able to get great results with one of the other 3 I mentioned. Basically either a very soft foam, the blue BS, or the HT crimson.

Of course if you were one stepping swirls then you would go with something like the orange -
 
Corey said:
Depends for sure on the paint but its either the Blue, the Super soft (white or red) depending on size.. OR the Hydrotech Crimson which I LOVE for reflect on harder paints. The best I have used and my new favorite for finishing is the Scholl Concepts Neo Honey Gold but I know not many of you have that in your toolbox yet as an option. You should be able to get great results with one of the other 3 I mentioned. Basically either a very soft foam, the blue BS, or the HT crimson.

Of course if you were one stepping swirls then you would go with something like the orange -
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I already know honey spider pads will be ordered at some point, along with the Scholl's polishes - no doubt about that!
 
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